In the Trinitarian view...
How would you explain 1 Cor 15:27-28 which says:
"For He (the Father) has put all things in subjection under His (Christ’s) feet. But when He says, “All things have been put in subjection [under Christ],” it is clear that He (the Father) who put all things in subjection to Him (Christ) is excepted. However, when all things are subjected to Him (Christ), then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One (the Father) who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all."
This clearly speaks of two beings; one subjecting all things under the other and the second being subject to the first.
And yet, Father and Son are one.
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Joshua Myers
This is where I see Paul as important, but not Scripture (i.e. the end all be all authority.) He is a teacher and gives his understanding. In verse 27, he is quoting Psalm 8, which that verse is talking about humans in general.
The implication would be that Yeshua was just a human, nothing more if we are keeping the Psalm in context. And I see some of that in the "two beings" reasoning. There are even some out there (mainly on TikTok) that will say Yeshua was just a human like the rest of us. He is still our Messiah, but he wasn't YHWH/God.
Going back to Paul, verse 28 has no proof text (other Scripture) behind it that I am aware of or can find. Because 28 is the big implication that there are two different beings we are talking about here. One that is ruling and will eventually give up that rule.
I know there is a teaching in Judaism of a greater YHWH and a lesser YHWH, and maybe that is what Paul is referring to here.
The issue I have with the whole "two beings" reasoning is most in that would agree, as do I, that pretty much any mention of YHWH is actually Yeshua. Mt. Sinai: Yeshua, With Abraham before Sodom and Gomorrah: Yeshua, Walking around in the Garden: Yeshua.
If this is the case, where is the Father? Literally Gen 1:1 and then we never see Him again? That makes no sense to me.
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Rick
The Father and Son are qualitatively equal. The Father is God, and the Son is God; they can’t be more divine or less divine. Subordinationism is the belief that the Father created the Son, and therefore, the Son is less divine than the Father; this is unbiblical. However, within Trinitarianism, the Son is functionally subordinate to the Father; this has to do with their exclusive roles within the Godhead.
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Abigail
People can be of one mind, one purpose, one goal, one way of thinking. And yet still be individuals. It's kind of like when you see a dance team. All the dancers are moving in such perfect synchrony they appear as if they are moving as one, yet they are all individual beings.
It is possible for Yeshua and Father to be one of mind and purpose. I believe that's what Yeshua is talking about when He says He only says what He hears the Father saying and He only does what He sees the Father doing.
Just some thoughts.
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