All-seeing VS. seeing everything all the time
I was raised that Father sees everything and this is declared by Jeremiah 23:24:
"'Who can hide in secret places so that I cannot see them?' declares the Lord. 'Do not I fill heaven and earth?' declares the Lord."
Proverbs 15:3, Psalm 139:1-4 and Hebrews 4:13 testifies to this.
Father's ability to see all is very clear, but there seems to be a choice in the doing so.
As example, we live in a 3D world and can see "into" a 2D drawing when it is laid flat. Now let's imagine we draw a Pacman inside of a Monopoly boardgame address/block. The Pacman only sees the rectangle of the block that he is in as he is not aware of height (the 3rd dimension that we live in) so can't see outside the box.
As we are on a higher dimension we can see into the rectangle, but Pacman can't see us. So we can see everything on the boardgame, but Pacman can only see the flat box he is in.
We can put our finger right on Pacman which to him will feel like we are touching his insides, but we aren't even visible in the flat box he is in. We'll appear to him as a spirit which he can't see in his 2D realm and moved "through" the walls of his box.
If we then take it to a higher dimension and look at the same scenario in our lives then we can only see width, height and perceive distance (hence why it is called depth perception, we only perceive depth).
If we lock ourselves inside a room then we on the 3rd dimension can't see through the walls of our room, but Father on a higher dimension sees "over" the room walls from the 4th dimension and higher. We therefore experience angels, demons, Yeshua in His resurrected body, etc. as spirits being able to move "through" walls, but the walls are only hinderances on our 3rd dimension.
This is how Yeshua was able to meet His disciples when the room was locked, for instance.
Back to my question, does it then mean that Father can see all, but chooses not to see something at times? Like when the skies were darkened at Yeshua's crucifixion? Or why the Aaronic blessing includes the part of "may He shine his face upon you" which indicates that as His face is shining by His glory, it shines on you whenever He looks in your direction.
When we then read that Father turns away then is not a case of Father simply ignoring something, but turning His back on someone has a deeper meaning than just ignoring them. It actually means not seeing and therefore not protecting or teaching that person.
What are your thoughts on this? Am I missing it totally?
GidgetsMom
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Abigail
He knows all, therefore He "sees" all. There are many things we "know" even though we are not physically seeing them in the moment. But for Him, knowing IS seeing.
I think He can hide Himself from us, but we cannot hide from Him. Wherever we are, He knows it. He knows our physical location, as well as our well-being--everything about us--without needing eyes to physically see us.
I believe turning His face toward us is an idiom meaning favor while turning His back on us would be the opposite. He did not stop seeing Yeshua, but Yeshua stopped feeling His presence. YHWH is so interconnected in oneness, the idea of being truly alone is unfathomable. I would imagine for Yeshua to be cutoff from fellowship with Father is to be alone and unable to see Father. It is interesting that Yeshua does have eyes to see.
Yet, just as we can feel very alone and disconnected from others even in the presence of other people, Yeshua was able to feel alone and separate from Father because Father made it so.
In other words, being in the presence of Father means being in fellowship with Him. Yeshua lost fellowship and presence. Those who refuse Him in this life will experience that same ultimate aloneness Yeshua felt on our behalf, but with no recourse.
Hope that made sense. I just popped in for a few minutes between other things.
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