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I had a beautiful time last Sabbath. I spent my time at a friend's place with other visitors. We met a new Torah follower in Yeshua. We had a good lunch there too.

We talked about all kinds of subjects. One of them is the group I was attending. A couple of women said that they would not attend there anymore because the leader of that group believes that women should keep quiet in the church (except for his wife). I think this is a misunderstanding of the Apostle Paul's teaching. I like to do my best to support local fellowship, but sometimes they make it hard when they come up with dumb rules like this.

I had a good visit with my friends and wish we were able to have these kinds of visits more often.

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I am so glad you have found some like-minded people. It sounds like quite a search to date. I trust that you get to build a firm relationship within your group.

My first thought on what the women said is, where in the Torah are we told that women must remain quiet in the church? Remember that even Paul can't teach anything new, so he can only comment on his understanding which is where we see his teachings differ from the Old Testament.

Secondly, which other verifiable person taught the same? We need 2 or 3 witnesses and not simply the same person repeating his own ideas multiple times.

This is one of those examples where we need to decide, do we build our foundation on Paul and "translate" the Torah according to his writings or is our foundation the Torah and we interpret Paul according to it.

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Many believers are up-in-arms and want to argue that a women’s place is in the kitchen and home to raise children. We are not in a position to decide who YHVH will use to bring a message and we are not in a position to judge should a powerful word come to us through a female. What we as believers should do is to open our ears and listen to the message and compare that to the Word of Elohim. Seek and you shall find the truth; we are taught. Because of this, there are several influential women in the Bible that plays a very important role according to me and even if we are reluctant to admit it, there are also powerful women today whom YHVH use. Personally I think that when a woman brings a message, compare it to the Word, and DO THE SAME WITH MEN!

Let me name a few influential women:
1) Sarah, Abraham's wife -- in Genesis
2) Miriam, Moses' sister -- In Exodus, Numbers, 1 Chronicles
3) Rahab, the heroine of the battle of Jerico -- in Joshua 2
4) Hadassah or Esther, queen of Persia -- in Esther
5) Female judge Deborah, she was not only a judge but also a prophetess -- in the book of Judges, you can also find the ancient poem, "song of Deborah" in Judges
6) Huldah, a prophetess who lived in Jerusalem -- in 2 Kings
7) Abigail, wife of Nabal that became king David's wife -- in 1 Samuel
8) Anna, Phannel's daughter from Asher's tribe was a prophetess in Yeshua's time -- Luke 2
9) Hannah, prophet Samuel's mother -- 1 Samuel

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