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Rhy Bezuidenhout
Rhy Bezuidenhout  
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A thought just crossed my mind, if we (not living in Israel) can't determine Abib 1 as we are for all practical reasons on a long journey and can't view the Abib barley, shouldn't we then be keeping the second Passover?

Num 9:10 “Speak to the children of Israel, saying: ‘If anyone of you or your posterity is unclean because of a corpse, or is far away on a journey, he may still keep the Lord’s Passover. 11 On the fourteenth day of the second month, at twilight, they may keep it. They shall eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs.

This should then address the need to look at other signs as the date will be confirmed...

#moedim #1abib #determiningthefeastdates

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GidgetsMom

If we, being in the diaspora, are on a long journey, keeping second passover would mean we have to return to jerusalem by then. Technically, we shouldnt be having lamb or any meat for passover since we cant take it to the temple for sacrifice. Many jews have chicken instead for passover, and they keep the first passover. Also, we are in a permanent state of uncleanliness, so we should not keep the passover. Personally, we keep the passover at the abib time with lamb. Not having the temple makes for a lot of technicalities. One of which is: since 'Yahuah has made His Name known in our homes, are we supposed to make altars to sacrifice to Him? I know some people on this platform practice this, but is it acceptable to Yah?
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info_overload

Well, I think we either have the internet and can hear in under 1 second when the Barley is ready in Israel or we have we have no way of knowing when second Passover time either.
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info_overload

I guess in Northern Hemisphere you could grow Barley and observe that if electricity and internet ceased to exist for any reason. But in Southern Hemisphere what could be done to determine Aviv?
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Emily Varela

We started doing this in '12. Because there is such short notice between when the aviv is ready and Pesach and because of the prohibitions in Israel, we do Pesach as a family (with the lamb because scripture says the lamb is to be eaten in the house, not at the temple) and the men travel to Jerusalem for 2nd Pesach. Then, from the end of 2nd Unleavened Bread, it's less than 2 weeks till Shavuot. Abba has worked things out for us so that they are able to be in the area and can celebrate Shavuot in Jerusalem on the same trip.
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Joshua Myers

"can't view the Abib barley," The witnesses are the Sun, Moon, and stars (Gen 1:14), not the barely. -- as for the journey argument, I am not on a journey. YHWH has planted me here. Will I be on a journey later on and be closer to the Land, I pray it is so, but I have no indications that I am to be there now. So unless I come in contact with a dead body, I see no reason not to keep First Passover.
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Abigail

I put I disagree because the implication is that you are far, but are going to be near at the 2nd Pesach. We are not going to be near either time (or at least almost everyone I know is not).
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Rhy Bezuidenhout

 
It was an interesting thought for me at the time and now I know better with some input.

Thanks for everyone who helped. 👍
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