I have a question: would you suppose that something false will gain truth? Honestly asking. I'm wondering how a people who have a great desire to walk in Truth will use a "false method" to gain "more truth". Now, are there people who turn other people away by their FRUIT? Oh, yes- 100%. I think there are a lot of people who exhibit rotten fruit no matter what doctrinal position they hold. And sure, there are sacred namers out there who give 3rd commandment defenders a --really-- bad name, there is no doubt. However, if JC is a false name (and we know it to be) how do we suppose we will gain more truth by using something false? I think it's a rottenness that leads to more rottenness. WHY IS WORKING WITHIN TRUTH SO HARD?!