Something that doesnt make sense to me about Isaia..

Isaiah 65:20

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Something that doesnt make sense to me about Isaiah 65: why is a newborn compared with a sinner in age (100 years)? This doesnt sit right with me. I have heard the first 40 chapters of Isaiah have a different author than the end chapters. But, John referenced Isaiah 53. Revelation confirms part of Isaiah 65 by saying there will be no sorrow in New Jerusalem, but they contradict each other about whether there will be death or everlasting life. I think the gospels quote Yeshua as saying there will be everlasting life. So, which is correct? I know we discussed this a couple weeks ago, but I didnt find satisfactory resolution to the issue/non-issue. I dont understand the prophets as easily as I do revelation. Can someone explain this to my finite brain, please? Its been nagging at me.

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Are you talking about this line:

לֹא־יִהְיֶ֨ה מִשָּׁ֜ם ע֗וֹד ע֤וּל יָמִים֙ וְזָקֵ֔ן אֲשֶׁ֥ר לֹֽא־יְמַלֵּ֖א אֶת־יָמָ֑יו כִּ֣י הַנַּ֗עַר בֶּן־מֵאָ֤ה שָׁנָה֙ יָמ֔וּת וְהַ֣חוֹטֶ֔א בֶּן־מֵאָ֥ה שָׁנָ֖ה יְקֻלָּֽל׃
No more shall there be an infant or graybeard
Who does not live out their lifetime.
Someone who dies at a hundred years
Shall be reckoned a youth,
And one who fails to reach a hundred
Shall be reckoned accursed.

https://www.sefaria.org/Isaiah.65.20?lang=bi

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One afterthought (and not directly related to your Post ?) about what you said "the gospels quote Yeshua". One thing I have found is that Yeshua teaches about forgiveness of sins which is in line with the OT view, but the rest of the New Testament then changes His teaching to atonement for our sins.

In my understanding, these aren't synonymous terms.

Someone can be forgiven without atonement and atonement can be made without forgiveness. Even the Lord's Prayer says "forgive us our debts (trespasses) as we forgive our debtors (those who trespass against us)". This is forgiveness without paying the penalty (making atonement).

The NT references to Yeshua's teaching are about Him making atonement for our sins, which isn't what I understand He taught.

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You have to remember: each gospel was written by a different author. Luke differs from the others in that it was through research, not 1sthand experience, that he wrote. With each gospel being a unique, singular experience, you have to remember who wrote it, what his background was, and so forth. John may have been closer to the cross, given Yeshua spoke directly to him and His mother, so he may have heard Yeshua's actual last words that someone deeper in the crowd may not have heard, and therefore wrote down what they did hear. Different perspectives, all true experiences.

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I was still chewing on isaiah 65:20 vs rev 21:4 tonight. A thought came to me: what does hebrew revelation say. It is slightly different. It says "And YHWH Elohim will wipe off (the) tears from all faces, and the death will no longer reign".

I think this allows for extended, but not eternal lifespans. However, Yeshua said "continuous life" more than once. I'll have to research that tomorrow.

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I had a quick, interesting study in hebrew matthew & mark today. Motly, Yeshua is quoted as sayong "everlasting life", but one verse said "everlasting LIGHT". The footnote also said it could be "glory". I found this verse to be very heartwarming. It's not that I want to live with death, its that I dont want false hope. After studyiing and praying over this, I wonder if Isaiah couldnt comprehend life without death, or at least couldnt verbalize eternity. Anyway, I plan to continue reading the prophets again for more insight.

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That is an interesting angle I had not considered...

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