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I was really into this as I was brought up in a house expecting Yeshua's return any day from the '80. Coming into the understanding of Torah in 2016 just made me dig even more into Biblical patterns, so it was a foundational belief for me. I even reposted the Messiah 2030 video on TTN Tube as I felt really strongly about it.

In my digging I came across a conundrum in our written history which is very interesting and more people are looking at it from different archaeological perspectives.

We nowadays assume that our year count has been counted from the year 1 to 2025, one year at a time. But is that the truth?

Did all kingdoms across the world abruptly fall in line; stop numbering their years according to the time that their ruler took over and start counting from year 1? We even see the dating pattern in the Bible where the years are counted according to the year that the king started their rule, and not from the day of Adam or Noah or Abraham, etc.

I don't want to take over your post, but it is very interesting to look at how our dates came to be and how various events are historically "dated" as happening in a specific year where it couldn't have happened as the nations around didn't exist. In some places the same event is written from two different historic perspectives taking place 800 years apart.

I personally believe that our times and laws have been changed, but we don't know by how much exactly yet.

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i was once asked when i thought the end would come.
so i went and looked for a prophecy that would shed light on this.
most prophecy revolves around the occurrence of events, not times, and i don't know if you've noticed, but the interpretations of those 'events', described in words of prophecy, have as many forms as adherents.
then i found a prophecy that talked about numbers, specific numbers, with a specific event from which a countdown can begin.
and i may have missed it, but i haven't seen anybody else refer to this.
too simple?

before i share this, let me say that this is only opinion.
at first i gave this as the answer to the question, and didn't think much about it, this was more than a decade ago. my attitude was well, if you want an answer, there's one, but i don't say i stand behind it at all, i just say it's the only one i could find.
and yet...
aren't things chugging along at a fierce rate nowadays?

first the text, then some interesting observations.
daniel 12
11And from the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12Blessed is he who waits and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.

focus on that abomination. where will it be set up?
daniel 11
31His forces will rise up and desecrate the temple fortress. They will abolish the daily sacrifice and set up the abomination of desolation.

now, if we can agree that a day is a year, and the temple fortress is jerusalem's zion, what abomination has been set up that fits this description?
the dome of the rock.

i've been in it, (too) many years ago, it's beautiful and dead.
and here is the part that makes this so interesting.
muslim history is pretty accurate. at this time the center of maths and datings was in the islamic world.
many of the historic dates we have around those times in our western history actually rely on the muslim history for correlations. we were busy with dark age shenanigans.
but when it comes to what they themselves consider their 'third most important' place, there's no precise date of completion of construction.
it gets narrowed down to somewhere between the last quarter of 691 and the first quarter of 692 AD
this does have to do with their lunar calendar and our solar one, but suddenly we can't do the maths to compensate? yet other times we can?
when this fact was emphasised somewhere in the last part of the 20th century, suddenly some 'new' proofs started to emerge from islamic historians to state a specific date. they are not seriously considered by the rest of the scholarly world.

what it means, using this as prophecy, is that something happened in 1981/1982 that brought a certain phase of history to an end. there are a few suspects that could be in consideration as to what it could be.
and then, somewhere between end 2026/beginning 2027 the end will come.
now, two things.

first, the day is known only to the Father.
(anybody who says exactly on this date is talking out of a suspect orifice)
that's why i find it so interesting that in the time when they were able to precisely date just about everything, the precise date of completion of this huge thing is lost in the mists of time. it wasn't a garden shed!
at best therefore, we get a rough idea of roundabout when.

second, no idea if this dating means the beginning, middle, or end of that last week, the last 7 years.
but if we take that into account, then i say this reading of daniel says the end is anywhere between end 2026 and beginning 2034.
and let 2030 be smack bang in the middle of that. hey, a midweek ending even has something going for it. my money's on beginning or end.

let's just say i don't worry about my pension plan much anymore.

i was once asked when i thought the end would come. 
so i went and looked for a prophecy that would shed light on this. 
most prophecy revolves around the occurrence of events, not times, and i don't know if you've noticed, but the interpretations of those 'events', described in words of prophecy, have as many forms as adherents. 
then i found a prophecy that talked about numbers, specific numbers, with a specific event from which a countdown can begin. 
and i may have missed it, but i haven't seen anybody else refer to this. 
too simple? 
 
before i share this, let me say that this is only opinion. 
at first i gave this as the answer to the question, and didn't think much about it, this was more than a decade ago. my attitude was well, if you want an answer, there's one, but i don't say i stand behind it at all, i just say it's the only one i could find.  
and yet... 
aren't things chugging along at a fierce rate nowadays? 
 
first the text, then some interesting observations. 
daniel 12 
11And from the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12Blessed is he who waits and reaches the end of the 1,335 days. 
 
focus on that abomination. where will it be set up? 
daniel 11 
31His forces will rise up and desecrate the temple fortress. They will abolish the daily sacrifice and set up the abomination of desolation. 
 
now, if we can agree that a day is a year, and the temple fortress is jerusalem's zion, what abomination has been set up that fits this description? 
the dome of the rock. 
 
i've been in it, (too) many years ago, it's beautiful and dead. 
and here is the part that makes this so interesting. 
muslim history is pretty accurate. at this time the center of maths and datings was in the islamic world. 
many of the historic dates we have around those times in our western history actually rely on the muslim history for correlations. we were busy with dark age shenanigans. 
but when it comes to what they themselves consider their 'third most important' place, there's no precise date of completion of construction. 
it gets narrowed down to somewhere between the last quarter of 691 and the first quarter of 692 AD 
this does have to do with their lunar calendar and our solar one, but suddenly we can't do the maths to compensate? yet other times we can?   
when this fact was emphasised somewhere in the last part of the 20th century, suddenly some 'new' proofs started to emerge from islamic historians to state a specific date. they are not seriously considered by the rest of the scholarly world. 
 
what it means, using this as prophecy, is that something happened in 1981/1982 that brought a certain phase of history to an end. there are a few suspects that could be in consideration as to what it could be. 
and then, somewhere between end 2026/beginning 2027 the end will come. 
now, two things. 
 
first, the day is known only to the Father.  
(anybody who says exactly on this date is talking out of a suspect orifice) 
that's why i find it so interesting that in the time when they were able to precisely date just about everything, the precise date of completion of this huge thing is lost in the mists of time. it wasn't a garden shed! 
at best therefore, we get a rough idea of roundabout when. 
 
second, no idea if this dating means the beginning, middle, or end of that last week, the last 7 years. 
but if we take that into account, then i say this reading of daniel says the end is anywhere between end 2026 and beginning 2034. 
and let 2030 be smack bang in the middle of that. hey, a midweek ending even has something going for it. my money's on beginning or end. 
 
let's just say i don't worry about my pension plan much anymore.

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