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Hi All
When do you celebrate the New Moon, and thus Rosh Hashana?

Just wondering why the Sabbath of Rosh Hashana is celebrated the day before the new moon? If the New Moon is on September 16th at 7 PM Israel time, should not this mark the beginning of the Sabbath, as days start at night in scripture? (Gen 1:5, 8, 13, etc)

If the New Moon is only after the day then the sighting of it would not tell us when it starts but that it is over.

Also, do they blow the silver trumpets in Israel, as commanded in Numbers 10:10?

Have a great noisy Feast of Shouting!!!

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I have tried several calendars, and the current one is the most accurate. We will be observing Rosh Trumpets begining sunset on the 15th of september because the conjunction is an hour after sunset the previous night here in Iowa. In other words, the month begins at the first sunset after the conjunction. We dont believe time is supposed to be kept by Jerusalem time because during the Exodus & the exile, Jerusalem time was not available promptly, even though it is, because of the Internet, available today. The sliver does indicate when the new moon is over. This is why it can not be used. The Passover, according to Psalm 81, happens ON the full moon. If you use the sliver, it comes after the full moon by a couple days. Also, Tabernacles begins ON the full moon. To answer your other question, I believe the silver trumpets are lost to history since the Romans destroyed the second temple and looted it. I hope this helps! Shalom.

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When will the feast be?

Welcome to one of my top 3 most divisive subjects in the Torah community. ?

Luckily, here on TTN, we all agree to learn so no fighting has ever taken place about this subject even if it is so divisive.

Everyone will have their own view on this, so hear everyone out and ask Father for what you should follow. One day, Yeshua will show us what we should have done and I might stand ashamed for my understanding.

BUT, here is my view and GidgetsMom and I have spoken about this one or twice before, so we do differ.

If our inheritance is in the land of Israel, then it means that Father always wanted us to remain there. It is our punishment due to our forefathers that we are now in the diaspora. I therefore take the stance that when I don't understand a timing then I look at Israel.

I was born in South Africa, which is in the southern hemisphere. When I came to the understanding of Torah in 2016, I couldn't understand how the locals would look at the local moon, but at Israel's barley for Passover. That was counter intuitive for me. But if they looked at their local barley then they would be 6 months out as the seasons are counter to the northern hemisphere.

Now that we are in the UK, the difference is only by a day or so, but there is still a difference in timings. It is like comparing a "small" sin with a "large" sin. Sin remains sin, so whether I miss the target by 1 inch or 1 mile, I am still missing the target...

I then also follow Scripture only, so if I can't find 2 verses to confirm something then I don't follow it.

So, I will be virtually joining the team in Jerusalem on the 16th (https://social.ttn.place/events/96/) to see whether they can spot the new moon. If they can’t see the new moon due to clouds, etc. and no one else reports the new moon that evening then the feast starts automatically on Sunday evening at sunset.

As for the trumpets, currently all sorts of instruments are used in the blowing. I see it as a representation only as the hammered silver trumpets aren’t available, yet.

When will the feast be? 
 
Welcome to one of my top 3 most divisive subjects in the Torah community.  ? 
 
Luckily, here on TTN, we all agree to learn so no fighting has ever taken place about this subject even if it is so divisive. 
 
Everyone will have their own view on this, so hear everyone out and ask Father for what you should follow.  One day, Yeshua will show us what we should have done and I might stand ashamed for my understanding.  
 
BUT, here is my view and GidgetsMom and I have spoken about this one or twice before, so we do differ.  
 
If our inheritance is in the land of Israel, then it means that Father always wanted us to remain there.  It is our punishment due to our forefathers that we are now in the diaspora.  I therefore take the stance that when I don't understand a timing then I look at Israel.   
 
I was born in South Africa, which is in the southern hemisphere.  When I came to the understanding of Torah in 2016, I couldn't understand how the locals would look at the local moon, but at Israel's barley for Passover.  That was counter intuitive for me.  But if they looked at their local barley then they would be 6 months out as the seasons are counter to the northern hemisphere. 
 
Now that we are in the UK, the difference is only by a day or so, but there is still a difference in timings.  It is like comparing a "small" sin with a "large" sin.  Sin remains sin, so whether I miss the target by 1 inch or 1 mile, I am still missing the target... 
 
I then also follow Scripture only, so if I can't find 2 verses to confirm something then I don't follow it. 
 
So, I will be virtually joining the team in Jerusalem on the 16th (https://social.ttn.place/events/96/) to see whether they can spot the new moon. If they can’t see the new moon due to clouds, etc. and no one else reports the new moon that evening then the feast starts automatically on Sunday evening at sunset. 
 
As for the trumpets, currently all sorts of instruments are used in the blowing.  I see it as a representation only as the hammered silver trumpets aren’t available, yet.

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I was very strong and feared nothing. My heart was hard, liver immovable, bowels without compassion. -Simeon #twelvepatriarchs

Compare Simeon's attitude to Judah's later in his life: "Now therefore, please let your servant remain instead of the boy as a servant to my lord, and let the boy go back with his brothers." Genesis 44:33 ESV

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We would love so much to be there but won't be able. Praying this event is incredibly blessed.

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In the last comic, I spoke about how the Bible explains how we are to love God and love others. There is a ditch we shouldn't fall into with that though: doing things in a checklist, or out of obligation.

Paul speaks a lot about this in his letters. Any time he is speaking about "the letter of the law", this is what he is referencing. God doesn't want us to do His commands as a "get out of hell free card", or "because we HAVE to, to be on His good side". He wants us to do them because we WANT to do them. We WANT to be closer to Him. He wants our hearts.

If we are just doing things out of obligation, there is no heart in it. It has no meaning. Think about you and your parents. Maybe one of the things they asked you to do was to take out the trash. Did you keep an eye on the trash to make sure that it was always taken out when it needed to be? You never complained if you missed an opportunity and if told it needed to be taken out, were quick to do it?

Or did you complain about how you hate having to take out the trash? You always waited until someone told you it needed to be taken out? And when you did take it out, you always had a bad attitude about it?

In both of these instances, you took the trash out, but which is loving? The same applies to God.

If you haven't before, read Isaiah 58. It is God talking about His people and how they think they are doing the things God wants them to do, but their heart isn't in it.

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The message, "What Proceeds From Our Hearts?," was delivered on location at 60 Bailey Ave., Manchester, NH for First Fruits Ministries Sabbath celebration on Sept. 9, 2023.

Here is the Odysee video archive: https://tinyurl.com/snrdudtc

For the presentation transcript, download the PDF here: https://tinyurl.com/c5bmdz9j

Torah Portion for this week: Deuteronomy 29:9-31:30; Isaiah 61:10-63:9; Luke 24:1-43; John 15:1-11: https://tinyurl.com/yuum23vz.

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By the God of Heaven, do truth to each other and love one another. -Reuben #twelvepatriarchs

Reuben's advice echoes that of Paul (Eph 4:15), Peter (1 Peter 1:22), and John (2 John 1:3).

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On this date in history, 09/11/1777: The Battle of Brandywine, Pennsylvania. British forces attack American positions and force a retreat across the Brandywine River. #otd #tdih #americanrevolution https://www.historycarper.com/....category/battles/ame