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There shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse, and a branch from his roots shall bear fruit.
Isaiah 11:1

God promised David that he would always have a descendant to sit on the throne, but he didn't promise that his descendants would always actually hold any power. His line was never cut off, but it was severely pruned and even exiled for a time, but in the midst of that exile, under the thumb of a foreign empire, God gave David a Son who would transform his kingdom into something greater, something eternal, a Priest-King who would die, rise again, and ascend to a Throne that can never be corrupted, usurped, or surrendered.
#yeshua #jesus

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How do you decide which translation

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I have been looking at variances between the different Septuagint versions and in my search came across Mark 1:41 which is unrelated, but shows a similar issue.

Was Yeshua angry or compassionate according to Mark 1:41 as it depends on which translation a person uses?

That then follows on, so how do we decide which translation to use if even the oldest manuscripts have different messages?

Do you follow a specific method of thinking when you come across these differences or do you simply accept the most compassionate version?

#mark1 #deciding

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I give very little credence to the lxx. The hebrew mark1:41 is pictured:

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my method of choice is to read the passage in context, carefully.

in ths instance of mark 1:41, the leper starts his request with the words 'if You are willing...'
this is followed by Yeshua being 'moved', and His response starts with 'I am willing.'

using this context, it looks like what is 'moving' Yeshua is the leper's questioning of His (Yeshua's) willingness.

and that would suggest anger, or indignation, more than compassion.
in fact what comes up in my mind is it's sort of the OT equivalent of a flaring of nostrils, very definitely indicating rage.
said anger being directed toward our unbelief, our doubt, more than toward ourselves.

but then, if we stick with the greek, which uses the word indicating feeling coming from the insides, generally described as having 'the bowels yearn', ie compassion/sympathy/pity,
were this therefore to suggest compassion, it would seem to me to be compassion not for our leprosy, but for our unbelief in His willingness.

both versions fit, when considering the cause of what moved Him to be our unbelief in His willingness.

pondering just one step further, look at the passage.
take out those three words - 'moved with compassion/anger'.
you'd just read it as another in the string of miracles proving Him to be the Messiah. in fact, matthew and luke don't have those words.
but now add the three words in.
suddenly, for glimpsing Him as a person, we reflect on the passage, and then only do we see that the description of Him being moved is offering a critique on our doubt of His willingness to heal us.
with three words and the reflection they (should) bring about, the biggest obstacle facing our acceptance of the Messiah is addressed.
you might want to read that again.

so to me what moved Him is the subject of importance, and then whether it was to compassion or anger is a moot point.

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Sheol and Abaddon are before YHVH: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?
Proverbs 15:11

Sheol isn't what we normally think of as "Hell", but the grave where the dead await judgment.

Abaddon is probably correctly translated as destruction in the KJV. It's also used in the Psalms, Job, and Revelation, where it is applied to "the angel of the bottomless pit". I believe this word refers to the Lake of Fire into which Sheol and death will one day be cast and destroyed.

Sheol, Abaddon, and death (mavet) all go together.

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My thinking exactly.

On that, I understand Rev 20 that not all sinners are thrown into the bottomless pit. Satan, his angels, those who accepted the mark and death are thrown into it.

So where does it leave sinner?

We are warned to fear Him who can destroy both body and spirit, so it is possible to be totally destroyed or else everyone already has everlasting life. Some for good rewards and some for sorrow as no one completely dies according to church doctrine (think "heaven" and everlasting torture...).

So when Ezekiel says that on the New Earth those who die younger than 100 years of age are considered accursed; then there is another form of death on the New Earth. 🤔

Or is that again a scribal error in Ezekiel?

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062625 / 29th day of the 3rd month 5787
WORD FOR TODAY “are some of the seals opened?”: Rev 5:5 and one of the elders *said to me, "Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals."

WISDOM FOR TODAY: Pro 28:27 He who gives to the poor will never want, But he who shuts his eyes will have many curses.

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The first time the word peace is found in the Bible is in Genesis 15:15, “You, however, will go to your fathers in peace and be buried at a ripe old age,” The message to Abraham is that the would enjoy a long life without anything that would cause him worry. Our Creator would be the one who would shield him from evil.

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Torah Business Listing

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Is it worth looking into a solution where the community can publish their business listings?

I ran a general business listing website like this during the lockdowns so I can create something like that rather quickly.

Please share your thoughts in the pole and add any comments you may have.

Yes

I am neutral on this

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Thought for Today: Thursday June 26

Only YHVH can meet our deepest yearnings. As St. Augustine said many centuries ago: “You have made us for Yourself O Elohiym, and our hearts are restless until they find their rest in You.” What stands out as a yearning for YHVH in your life? Do not let anything, or anyone, comes between you and Him. Isaiah wrote: “why do you spend money for what is not bread, and your wages for what does not satisfy?” (Isaiah 55:2) YHVH wants you to know Him in a personal way, and He has made this possible through Yeshua Moshiach. He Loves you and He WILL give you peace.

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Why is it important to study.....

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Why is it important to study the Torah?
Miguel Forero
May 22, 2023
Biblical Studies
The holy books were never secret documents, but the patrimony of the whole community.

While it is true that the priests and the Levites were entrusted with the custody of the sacred books, they were also entrusted with the responsibility of teaching the Torah — YeHoVaH’s instructions — to the people. However, the Levites were not the only ones who had the responsibility of studying and knowing it.

In fact, the very survival of YeHoVaH’s people has depended upon their faithfulness to YeHoVaH’s instructions; it’s the responsibility of everyone who trusts in the God of Israel! For this reason, ignorance of the Torah is no excuse among the children of YeHoVaH. This is why Moses was tasked with reading these instructions to everyone — both the literal tribes of Israel and the “mixed multitude” who escaped Egypt with them:

“And he (Moshe) took the Book of the Covenant and read in the ears of the people”
~ Exodus 24:7

One of the provisions of the Torah specifically calls for the reading of the entire book of Deuteronomy before the assembled people — specifically so that those who did NOT know the God of Israel would understand what He expected of anyone who would consider themselves as part of Israel:

“And Moshe commanded them, saying, At the end of every seven years, at the appointed time of the year of remission, in the solemnity of Tabernacles (Sukkot), when all Israel go to appear before YeHoVaH your Elohim in the place which He has chosen, you shall read this Torah before all Israel in their hearing. You shall gather the people, men, women, and children, and your stranger who is in your gates, that they may hear and learn, and fear YeHoVaH your Elohim, and keep the words of this Torah to do them. And that their children who do not know it may hear and learn to fear YeHoVaH your Elohim, all the days that you live in the land where you are going, past the Yarden, to take possession of it.
~ Deuteronomy 31:12

So it was that every seven years, and during the Feast of Sukkot of each Sabbath year, all the people of Yisrael were summoned to be instructed by the priests and Levites, making it clear from the beginning of their existence as a nation, that they were the people chosen by YeHoVaH to develop that unique identity. This is the reason why the holy books were never secret documents, but the patrimony of the whole community.

If we are to affirm our identity as YeHoVaH’s people, we need to keep immersing ourselves in His Word, otherwise, we will not be able to discern the Truth from the multitude of voices and messages that reach our ears every day. The path is narrow and staying on it requires our full attention to the Torah — the instructions — that our Father has provided to us.