Suffering Servant - Isaiah 53

GidgetsMom and I have had an interesting discussion around who the "suffering servant" is in Isaiah 53.

Matthew quotes a verse from Isa 53, but currently it looks to be out of context to me.

Let me explain, when I look from my church doctrine then this chapter can only speak of Yeshua. BUT if I am honest with myself and do not overlook the verses that are out of place in my view then I have to admit that I don't know whom is being spoken of as it doesn't reflect 100% in my view on Yeshua's life.

And yes, there are passages in the Bible which I don't fully understand nor have received non-contradictory explanations for it, so I don't have a problem to assign this chapter to that part of my "understanding".

The Jews say that this chapter is speaking of Isreal as a nation as they reject the notion of Yeshua as a Messiah.

Isaiah 53:2 already has me confused as it would mean that Yeshua would have to develop into a mature adult over time. If I remove the added capitalizations in the verse that was added during translation then the verse says:

"For he grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground; he has no stately form or majestic splendor that we would look at him, nor appearance that we would be attracted to Him."

Verse 9 then says "But He was with a rich man in His death". Yeshua was buried in a brand new tomb. Yes a rich man owned it, but He wasn't buried with someone else in the tomb.

Verse 12 then says "I will divide and give Him a portion with the great". This again doesn't fit in with the picture of Yeshua being King of kings and ruling over all. In this passage the servant only receives a portion.

What is your understanding of these verses when it is read without a doctrinal view and read on face value?

#isaiah53

"My flesh trembleth for fear of thee; and I am afraid of thy judgements."

Ps 119

Thought for Today: Friday December 13

Courage does not exist in being blind to dangers, but seeing and conquering them.

Then he (Jacob) erected there an altar and called it El-Elohe-Israel. (Gen 33:20)
Jacob's conversion is now complete. He named the place "the mighty God of Israel". He had just been renamed Israel and was no longer saying "the God of my Fathers" but "My God."

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Jacob showed wisdom in dividing his camp as he neared Esau and sending gifts ahead of him. Many small good deeds over time can be more powerful than one great favor. Esau expected anger from Jacob, but found love instead. A gentle answer turns away wrath.
#genesis 32-33 #vayishlach

There are more reasons Jacob might have done this...

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A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.
Proverbs 15:1 ESV

Regarding the soft answer, consider Jacob's approach to Esau in Genesis 32, .Gideon's flattery of Ephraim in Judges 8, and Abigail saving her family from David in 1 Samuel 25.

Regarding the harsh answer, consider Jephthah being too honest to Ephraim in Judges 12, David provoking Goliath to pride in 1 Samuel 17, and Yeshua's rebuke of the Pharisees in Luke 4.

There's a time for both.

Then Jacob was greatly afraid and distressed. He divided the people who were with him, and the flocks and herds and camels, into two camps, thinking, “If Esau comes to the one camp and attacks it, then the camp that is left will escape.”
#genesis 32:7-8 #vayishlach

We struggle constantly to balance faith in God's plan with our own responsibility to act. God will preserve his people, no matter what we do, but he still expects us to maintain our roofs, prepare for winter, and even bear arms when necessary.

Like Abraham and Isaac before him, Jacob knew God's promises and believed them, but he didn't know exactly how they would be fulfilled. He acted with the best knowledge he had and God blessed him for it.

In the past young people had the chance to be exposed to the real world. Anyone who grew up on a farm understood how animals reproduce and how food is grown. The people who grew up in an urban environment would often learn about business and travel. Young people learn far more through experience than any other method so we should be very careful to what we expose them. Matthew 18:6, “But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.”