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Esther414Ministries
Esther414Ministries

3 yrs

Sometimes, people see what you have and want it, but just aren't willing to do what you did or put in the amount of time and self-discipline needed to obtain it. Instead, they attempt and expect to ride along with you and have what they want to occur in their lives because they know you, fellowship with you, and in some cases are taught by you.

This is dangerous for leaders, teachers, and even just friends. Eventually, when this person is not achieving what they want, you will either become their persecutor (in their minds) or an idol to them, no matter what you did or did not do for them. (Warning: If you allow yourself to stay in that place of an idol, YOU WILL eventually be torn down by The Father.)

I have learned all of this the hard way through the years. Some people don't want to be taught (even though they beg you to teach them). They want to latch on and obtain what you have through a relationship with you instead of that relationship with The Father, hard work, and self-discipline you put in.

It NEVER works.

Be watchful! Sometimes, it's a matter of maturity, but other times, it's a destroyer in disguise (a goat). If you have a check in your spirit about a relationship, listen to that! Tread lightly until you have proof that what you're experiencing is a check from the Ruach and not just suspicion. Evaluate what is going on around you. Are things suddenly happening that don't seem right? Are your other relationships suffering suddenly even though nothing has changed nor harsh words exchanged? These are all clues there could be a goat in your midst.

We often want to believe the best about people so badly that we can't see the destruction they bring. Love new people, but with healthy boundaries. Always let Abba bring healing to them before embarking on a teacher/student relationship that they aren't ready for. Then, let their fruit and maturity and the Ruachs guidance tell you what they truly need from you and are ready for; if anything at all.

The Ruach is a much better teacher than any of us! He just doesn't need our help and will use these people to show us exactly that. Don't get me wrong....I'm not saying we shouldn't teach. I'm saying we should pray more about who, when, where, and why before embarking in that type of relationship. And relationship is the key! The sheep know and trust the shepherd! A good shepherd knows (has a relationship with) their sheep. That is also what allows the shepherd to spot a goat that gets in before it has a chance to destroy!

Final thoughts:

Don't take in a goat because you have no sheep. They eat everything in site, destroy what you've built for future sheep, and run sheep off when they come (usually when your back is turned).

Shalom!
Karen

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Julie, where is this? So striking!
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Its belfast. Home.
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Robin Eldridge
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I honestly cannot remember if i did this when I was first introduced to TTN lol. So no time like the present, right? I am currently living in NE Indiana near "the border", but grew up in NW Ohio. Also lived in TX for 5 years back in the '90s. We have several options for fellowship within an hour so I am blessed!

My walk started in about 2013. I was a member of a huge evangelical church in Ft Wayne, and did both church and Torah fellowship for a short time. I was a single working mom and soon realized I had to choose since my time and energy were pretty limited. I no longer consider myself single, as an older brother in the faith has me "covered". I'd love to connect with anyone in the "Fort to the Port" corridor between Ft Wayne and Toledo, OH.

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On good vs evil, on why Yahovah allows bad things.

When God had formed man as it were His own image, that which was the completion of His workmanship, He breathed wisdom into him alone, so that he might bring all things into subjection to his own authority and government, and make use of all the advantages of the world. And yet He set before him both good and evil things, inasmuch as He gave to him wisdom, the whole nature of which is employed in discerning things evil and good: for no one can choose better things, and know what is good, unless he at the same time knows to reject and avoid the things which are evil. They are both mutually connected with each other, so that, the one being taken away, the other must also be taken away. Therefore, good and evil things being set before it, then at length wisdom discharges its office, and desires the good for usefulness, but rejects the evil for safety.

Therefore, as innumerable good things have been given which it might enjoy, so also have evils, against which it might guard. For if there is no evil, no danger—nothing, in short, which can injure man—all the material of wisdom is taken away, and will be unnecessary for man. For if only good things are placed in sight, what need is there of reflection, of understanding, of knowledge, of reason? since, wherever he shall extend his hand, that is befitting and adapted to nature; so that if any one should wish to place a most exquisite dinner before infants, who as yet have no taste, it is plain that each will desire that to which either impulse, or hunger, or even accident, shall attract them; and whatever they shall take, it will be useful and salutary to them. What injury will it therefore be for them always to remain as they are, and always to be infants and unacquainted with affairs? But if you add a mixture either of bitter things, or things useless, or even poisonous, they are plainly deceived through their ignorance of good and evil, unless wisdom is added to them, by which they may have the rejection of evil things and the choice of good things.

From Lactantius, an early church father from the 3rd-4th century.

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Epicurus says, God either wishes to take away evils, and is unable; or He is able, and is unwilling; or He is neither willing nor able, or He is both willing and able. If He is willing and is unable, He is feeble, which is not in accordance with the character of God; if He is able and unwilling, He is envious, which is equally at variance with God; if He is neither willing nor able, He is both envious and feeble, and therefore not God; if He is both willing and able, which alone is suitable to God, from what source then are evils? or why does He not remove them? I know that many of the philosophers, who defend providence, are accustomed to be disturbed by this argument, and are almost driven against their will to admit that God takes no interest in anything, which Epicurus especially aims at; but having examined the matter, we easily do away with this formidable argument. For God is able to do whatever He wishes, and there is no weakness or envy in God. He is able, therefore, to take away evils; but He does not wish to do so, and yet He is not on that account envious. For on this account He does not take them away, because He at the same time gives wisdom, as I have shown; and there is more of goodness and pleasure in wisdom than of annoyance in evils. For wisdom causes us even to know God, and by that knowledge to attain to immortality, which is the chief good. Therefore, unless we first know evil, we shall be unable to know good. But Epicurus did not see this, nor did any other, that if evils are taken away, wisdom is in like manner taken away; and that no traces of virtue remain in man, the nature of which consists in enduring and overcoming the bitterness of evils. And thus, for the sake of a slight gain in the taking away of evils, we should be deprived of a good, which is very great, and true, and peculiar to us. It is plain, therefore, that all things are proposed for the sake of man, as well evils as also goods.
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Chris Deweese
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Shabbat shalom, everyone! We'll be live at 1pm today studying Luke 23. Please join via zoom or in person. The address and zoom info is on our home page. See you then!

https://www.thewordandtheway.net/

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