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Time Is the Ally of Deceit One of the best books especially for newbies is "Time Is the Ally of Deceit" by Richard Rives. Not to mention just a great slogan altogether and a perfect explanation for how everything has gone so far off the rails.

Check out his website at TooLong.com

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Rhy Bezuidenhout your idea of rewarding servants of Yah might be a good alternative economy, a hedge against the global economies failing. In the US, you cant mint your own money, but you can write scipts/credits for use in private transactions. Maybe something like that electronically (kinda like nft's) would make the idea feasable?

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Bezalel made the ark of acacia wood. Two cubits and a half was its length, a cubit and a half its breadth, and a cubit and a half its height.
Exodus 37:1

Only Moses saw the divine plans for the Ark of the Covenant, but God imbued Bezalel with a prophetically artistic spirit to fashion it and the other sacred furnishings according to the plan shown to Moses. Prophecy isn't limited to the spoken or written word. Sculpture, painting, music, and even architecture can be prophetic.

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Women’s Portion for Today: Thursday March 07

Grace is YHVH Himself; His loving energy at work in families and in the hearts of believers. (Prayer: Yeshua, Your glowing Light allows us to find our Holy Father again. Let our praises resound around the earth in all languages: Hallelujah, praise the King of kings and Lord of lords, amein)

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Are all the dead risen to everlasting life?

The Roman Catholic picture of hell is most likely burnt into all of our minds. One of eternal fire and torture of the lost souls.

Is this belief maybe based on scriptures like 1 Cor 15:52 which says: "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed."

In the Amplified version there are notes about only the saved receiving imprishable bodies, but I don't see that in other translations.

What then happens at the second death, or isn't it "death" but rather eternal torture and John's vision was written down incorrectly?

Rev 20:14-15 (ESV): "Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."

Rev 21:8 (ESV): "But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."

So, actually everyone receives eternal life, but our judgements determine where we spend eternity.

This then means that Father can't destroy our souls, but only our bodies so Matthew 10:28 is false: "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell."

What are your thoughts on this?

#hell #gehenna #eternallife

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I believe the second death is actual destruction of the being. I dont believe in eternal torment. We are all mortals since adam & eve. Theose who have not repented still do not have everlasting life, unlike those who have repented and obey Torah. Yah is a righteous judge. He would not give everlasting life to unrepentant just to punish them eternally.

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Where their worm never dies… Mark 9:48
Dan 12:2 everlasting contempt

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Sorry if it seems quite simple to me: "Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1Cor 15

Grammatically, the "we" is Christians, and "the dead" is a group within that "we" in that sentence.
When dead, the spirit is separate from the body, the unjust are tormented, and the just have rest; both are raised for the judgement, when the unjust will be put to death a second time, and again tormented, while the just will be immortal, inseparable from the body, spirit and body one forever, living in the new heavens and new earth.

One thing the Catholics get quite wrong is the idea that Satan is a lord of hell, and rules it, and dwells there, and his demons torture people. This maybe came from paganism, equating hell with "the underworld" of Greco-Roman mythology.
It seems to me that Scripturally few things could be more ridiculous: Satan is the enemy of hell, God's judgement, and it is his demons who are tormented by God: as they besought Christ not to torment them before the time, for they recognised their judge, who holds the keys of hell and of death.

By the way, what AI did you use? 🙂

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In the Trinitarian view...

How would you explain 1 Cor 15:27-28 which says:

"For He (the Father) has put all things in subjection under His (Christ’s) feet. But when He says, “All things have been put in subjection [under Christ],” it is clear that He (the Father) who put all things in subjection to Him (Christ) is excepted. However, when all things are subjected to Him (Christ), then the Son Himself will also be subjected to the One (the Father) who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all."

This clearly speaks of two beings; one subjecting all things under the other and the second being subject to the first.

And yet, Father and Son are one.

#trinity #trinitarian

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The Father and Son are One. But that doesn't make the Son co-equal to the Father. The Father is still greater than the Son.

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Not a trinitarian, but I see the Father and Son as One, like literally. "Hear O Israel, YHWH your God is One". It would be like saying my hand is different than me. My hand is just part of me.

This is where I see Paul as important, but not Scripture (i.e. the end all be all authority.) He is a teacher and gives his understanding. In verse 27, he is quoting Psalm 8, which that verse is talking about humans in general.

The implication would be that Yeshua was just a human, nothing more if we are keeping the Psalm in context. And I see some of that in the "two beings" reasoning. There are even some out there (mainly on TikTok) that will say Yeshua was just a human like the rest of us. He is still our Messiah, but he wasn't YHWH/God.

Going back to Paul, verse 28 has no proof text (other Scripture) behind it that I am aware of or can find. Because 28 is the big implication that there are two different beings we are talking about here. One that is ruling and will eventually give up that rule.

I know there is a teaching in Judaism of a greater YHWH and a lesser YHWH, and maybe that is what Paul is referring to here.

The issue I have with the whole "two beings" reasoning is most in that would agree, as do I, that pretty much any mention of YHWH is actually Yeshua. Mt. Sinai: Yeshua, With Abraham before Sodom and Gomorrah: Yeshua, Walking around in the Garden: Yeshua.

If this is the case, where is the Father? Literally Gen 1:1 and then we never see Him again? That makes no sense to me.

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The Father and the Son are not two beings; that is bitheism.

The Father and Son are qualitatively equal. The Father is God, and the Son is God; they can’t be more divine or less divine. Subordinationism is the belief that the Father created the Son, and therefore, the Son is less divine than the Father; this is unbiblical. However, within Trinitarianism, the Son is functionally subordinate to the Father; this has to do with their exclusive roles within the Godhead.

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Psalm 37:7—8, “Wait and trust the LORD. Don’t be upset when others get rich or when someone else’s plans succeed. Don’t get angry. Don’t be upset; it only leads to trouble.” (ICB) Sometimes the best advice is the most difficult to accept and apply to our lives.

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Thought for Today: Thursday March 07

When our steps begin to align with YHVH's purpose, our hearts discover a new kind of joy.

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