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Patrick Lauser
Patrick Lauser

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"And hereby we do know that we know him: if we keep his commandments."

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Patrick Lauser
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There shall be Yahweh with the good Original Hebrew Scripture from 2Chronicles 19
"There shall be Yahweh with the good."
וִיהִי יְהוָה עִם־הַטּוֹב

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Rhy Bezuidenhout
Rhy Bezuidenhout  

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All-seeing VS. seeing everything all the time

I was raised that Father sees everything and this is declared by Jeremiah 23:24:

"'Who can hide in secret places so that I cannot see them?' declares the Lord. 'Do not I fill heaven and earth?' declares the Lord."

Proverbs 15:3, Psalm 139:1-4 and Hebrews 4:13 testifies to this.

Father's ability to see all is very clear, but there seems to be a choice in the doing so.

As example, we live in a 3D world and can see "into" a 2D drawing when it is laid flat. Now let's imagine we draw a Pacman inside of a Monopoly boardgame address/block. The Pacman only sees the rectangle of the block that he is in as he is not aware of height (the 3rd dimension that we live in) so can't see outside the box.

As we are on a higher dimension we can see into the rectangle, but Pacman can't see us. So we can see everything on the boardgame, but Pacman can only see the flat box he is in.

We can put our finger right on Pacman which to him will feel like we are touching his insides, but we aren't even visible in the flat box he is in. We'll appear to him as a spirit which he can't see in his 2D realm and moved "through" the walls of his box.

If we then take it to a higher dimension and look at the same scenario in our lives then we can only see width, height and perceive distance (hence why it is called depth perception, we only perceive depth).

If we lock ourselves inside a room then we on the 3rd dimension can't see through the walls of our room, but Father on a higher dimension sees "over" the room walls from the 4th dimension and higher. We therefore experience angels, demons, Yeshua in His resurrected body, etc. as spirits being able to move "through" walls, but the walls are only hinderances on our 3rd dimension.

This is how Yeshua was able to meet His disciples when the room was locked, for instance.

Back to my question, does it then mean that Father can see all, but chooses not to see something at times? Like when the skies were darkened at Yeshua's crucifixion? Or why the Aaronic blessing includes the part of "may He shine his face upon you" which indicates that as His face is shining by His glory, it shines on you whenever He looks in your direction.

When we then read that Father turns away then is not a case of Father simply ignoring something, but turning His back on someone has a deeper meaning than just ignoring them. It actually means not seeing and therefore not protecting or teaching that person.

What are your thoughts on this? Am I missing it totally?

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GidgetsMom

Pac man on a monopoly board is the best analogy i have seen explaining why we dont understand the 4th dimension. Excellent job!
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Hm...YHWH is spirit with no corporeal form other than Yeshua. He has no back to turn or eye to see. I think the language of seeing is for our benefit.

He knows all, therefore He "sees" all. There are many things we "know" even though we are not physically seeing them in the moment. But for Him, knowing IS seeing.

I think He can hide Himself from us, but we cannot hide from Him. Wherever we are, He knows it. He knows our physical location, as well as our well-being--everything about us--without needing eyes to physically see us.

I believe turning His face toward us is an idiom meaning favor while turning His back on us would be the opposite. He did not stop seeing Yeshua, but Yeshua stopped feeling His presence. YHWH is so interconnected in oneness, the idea of being truly alone is unfathomable. I would imagine for Yeshua to be cutoff from fellowship with Father is to be alone and unable to see Father. It is interesting that Yeshua does have eyes to see.

Yet, just as we can feel very alone and disconnected from others even in the presence of other people, Yeshua was able to feel alone and separate from Father because Father made it so.

In other words, being in the presence of Father means being in fellowship with Him. Yeshua lost fellowship and presence. Those who refuse Him in this life will experience that same ultimate aloneness Yeshua felt on our behalf, but with no recourse.

Hope that made sense. I just popped in for a few minutes between other things.
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Rhy Bezuidenhout
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Q133: How many years was it between when the covenant with Abraham was made and when the Law was given to Moses?

#quiz

PS: Discussions are very welcome, but please do not give the answer away in your discussions.

Hint: Gal. 3

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GidgetsMom

I dont think any of these is right because jacob went down to egypt when he was old, and israel was there exactly 430 years, but 1400 years is too long.
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Nick Liebenberg
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Thought for Today: Wednesday March 20

YHVH gave us the best in Yeshua and through Him He continue to give us joy again and again.

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Jay Carper
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Fools mock at the guilt offering, but the upright enjoy acceptance.
Proverbs 14:9

ESV is correct to translate asham as "guilt offering". That's the clear meaning every other time it is used except possibly in Genesis 26:10. Mockery of blood sacrifice is routine, even among Christians who claim to follow the Bible. I have to wonder at any wisdom that comes from such teachers.

Don't underestimate the peace that comes from acceptance into the presence of God.

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Abigail
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I keep getting suggestions for people close to me. But it's always disappointing because they are all people who have not been here for a couple of years. Most only have one post, if that.

Praying for Yah to bring some in person fellowship to us.

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Rhy Bezuidenhout

 
Yes, unfortunately with all social platforms there is only a small percentage of people actually actively participate and a few more log in as bystanders to read the content and don't participate themselves.

That is why I am looking for ideas to get people more involved on TTN Social rather that it just being another platform to belong to, but then ignore.

Do you maybe have any ideas what can be improved to get people more involved?
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I think an email to inactive or very low active members is a very good idea. Indeed recently tried to do this with me, but the email got deleted. I get a lot of spam in that email, so i was suspicious.
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Abigail
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I highly recommend this series. I recently finished it and found it to be very good. It's done by Corner Fringe Ministries .

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Jay Carper
Jay Carper

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Whoever puts up security for a stranger will have trouble, but whoever avoids shaking hands on such a deal is secure.
#proverbs 11:15

Avoid situations in which important decisions and commitments are under the control of someone you can't trust, whether because he is untrustworthy or because you simply don't know enough about him. Seize opportunities when they come, but not if they bind you to someone else's character.

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Tzefira Elaine
Tzefira Elaine

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I am calling all prayer warriors to pray for Garvin and I, to petition the courts of Heaven for the restoration of our provision and for Yehovah's victory over the Witchcraft that is attacking us DAILY. If you don't believe Witchcraft is real then please come visit us NOW and experience it for yourself! Everyday it is something and it is all about keeping us from doing what Yah has told us to do. We need people to come help us physically on the farm (volunteer) and spiritually through warfare and intersession.

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Rhy Bezuidenhout

 
I would have loved to physically come help, but I just live too far. I will however keep you in my prayers.
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You may feel alone, and may even be physically isolated, but you are not alone. Satan is on a rampage. Know other true believers and Yah are in your corner..the battle is already won. Hold out and stand firm! Prayers sent your way! Shalom.
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