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Hein Zentgraf
Hein Zentgraf

Adam and Messiah

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Happy Rosh Chodesh Triumph In Truth family! The new moon was spotted over Israel the evening of 6/26. We have now begun the 4th Biblical Month!

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Jay Carper
Jay Carper

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There shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse, and a branch from his roots shall bear fruit.
Isaiah 11:1

God promised David that he would always have a descendant to sit on the throne, but he didn't promise that his descendants would always actually hold any power. His line was never cut off, but it was severely pruned and even exiled for a time, but in the midst of that exile, under the thumb of a foreign empire, God gave David a Son who would transform his kingdom into something greater, something eternal, a Priest-King who would die, rise again, and ascend to a Throne that can never be corrupted, usurped, or surrendered.
#yeshua #jesus

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Rhy Bezuidenhout
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How do you decide which translation

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I have been looking at variances between the different Septuagint versions and in my search came across Mark 1:41 which is unrelated, but shows a similar issue.

Was Yeshua angry or compassionate according to Mark 1:41 as it depends on which translation a person uses?

That then follows on, so how do we decide which translation to use if even the oldest manuscripts have different messages?

Do you follow a specific method of thinking when you come across these differences or do you simply accept the most compassionate version?

#mark1 #deciding

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I give very little credence to the lxx. The hebrew mark1:41 is pictured:
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Henk Wouters

my method of choice is to read the passage in context, carefully.

in ths instance of mark 1:41, the leper starts his request with the words 'if You are willing...'
this is followed by Yeshua being 'moved', and His response starts with 'I am willing.'

using this context, it looks like what is 'moving' Yeshua is the leper's questioning of His (Yeshua's) willingness.

and that would suggest anger, or indignation, more than compassion.
in fact what comes up in my mind is it's sort of the OT equivalent of a flaring of nostrils, very definitely indicating rage.
said anger being directed toward our unbelief, our doubt, more than toward ourselves.

but then, if we stick with the greek, which uses the word indicating feeling coming from the insides, generally described as having 'the bowels yearn', ie compassion/sympathy/pity,
were this therefore to suggest compassion, it would seem to me to be compassion not for our leprosy, but for our unbelief in His willingness.

both versions fit, when considering the cause of what moved Him to be our unbelief in His willingness.

pondering just one step further, look at the passage.
take out those three words - 'moved with compassion/anger'.
you'd just read it as another in the string of miracles proving Him to be the Messiah. in fact, matthew and luke don't have those words.
but now add the three words in.
suddenly, for glimpsing Him as a person, we reflect on the passage, and then only do we see that the description of Him being moved is offering a critique on our doubt of His willingness to heal us.
with three words and the reflection they (should) bring about, the biggest obstacle facing our acceptance of the Messiah is addressed.
you might want to read that again.

so to me what moved Him is the subject of importance, and then whether it was to compassion or anger is a moot point.
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Jay Carper
Jay Carper

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Sheol and Abaddon are before YHVH: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?
Proverbs 15:11

Sheol isn't what we normally think of as "Hell", but the grave where the dead await judgment.

Abaddon is probably correctly translated as destruction in the KJV. It's also used in the Psalms, Job, and Revelation, where it is applied to "the angel of the bottomless pit". I believe this word refers to the Lake of Fire into which Sheol and death will one day be cast and destroyed.

Sheol, Abaddon, and death (mavet) all go together.

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Rhy Bezuidenhout

 
My thinking exactly.

On that, I understand Rev 20 that not all sinners are thrown into the bottomless pit. Satan, his angels, those who accepted the mark and death are thrown into it.

So where does it leave sinner?

We are warned to fear Him who can destroy both body and spirit, so it is possible to be totally destroyed or else everyone already has everlasting life. Some for good rewards and some for sorrow as no one completely dies according to church doctrine (think "heaven" and everlasting torture...).

So when Ezekiel says that on the New Earth those who die younger than 100 years of age are considered accursed; then there is another form of death on the New Earth. 🤔

Or is that again a scribal error in Ezekiel?
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062625 / 29th day of the 3rd month 5787
WORD FOR TODAY “are some of the seals opened?”: Rev 5:5 and one of the elders *said to me, "Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals."

WISDOM FOR TODAY: Pro 28:27 He who gives to the poor will never want, But he who shuts his eyes will have many curses.

www.BGMCTV.org

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Jerry Mitchell
Jerry Mitchell

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The first time the word peace is found in the Bible is in Genesis 15:15, “You, however, will go to your fathers in peace and be buried at a ripe old age,” The message to Abraham is that the would enjoy a long life without anything that would cause him worry. Our Creator would be the one who would shield him from evil.

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Torah Business Listing

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Is it worth looking into a solution where the community can publish their business listings?

I ran a general business listing website like this during the lockdowns so I can create something like that rather quickly.

Please share your thoughts in the pole and add any comments you may have.

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Ideally yes, but practically it seems like Messianic business listings are like herding cats.
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Nick Liebenberg
Nick Liebenberg

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Thought for Today: Thursday June 26

Only YHVH can meet our deepest yearnings. As St. Augustine said many centuries ago: “You have made us for Yourself O Elohiym, and our hearts are restless until they find their rest in You.” What stands out as a yearning for YHVH in your life? Do not let anything, or anyone, comes between you and Him. Isaiah wrote: “why do you spend money for what is not bread, and your wages for what does not satisfy?” (Isaiah 55:2) YHVH wants you to know Him in a personal way, and He has made this possible through Yeshua Moshiach. He Loves you and He WILL give you peace.

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TriumphInTruthAdmin
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Triumph In Truth ministries will be hosting another water-immersion gathering in Oklahoma on 6.28 at 10am! If you would like to attend a gathering visit our website at and fill out the form. We hope to see you there!

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